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===<div id=layer1 style="text-align: center;">Welcome to the official wiki for the [[alea iacta est]] (AIE) gaming community, created and maintained by and for members.</div>===
;UMAMI : '''U'''niversal '''M'''ulti-game '''A'''IE '''M'''embership '''I'''nterface
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| [[Founding of the Guild]]
==Part the First==
[[COOP]]
[[:Category:Guild Wars 2]]
[[Running of the Beef]]
 
| [[Craft Faire]]
==Part the Second==
[[Cataclysm and Reforging]]
===<div style="width: 60%; margin: auto; position: relative;"><div style="padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">Welcome to the official wiki for the [[Alea Iacta Est]] gaming community!</div></div>===
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<div style="border:1px solid #2B3A42; background:#5f5d5c; color: white; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;">Featured article</div>
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| [[Founding of the Guild]]
; {{:Main Page/featured article}}
[[COOP]]
; http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RandomSelection
[[Running of the Beef]]
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| [[Craft Faire]]
<div style="text-align: right; font-size: 0.8em; font-style: italic; margin: 0.3em 1em;">[[Main Page/featured article|Previously featured articles]]</div>
[[Cataclysm and Reforging]]
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<div style="border:1px solid #2B3A42; background:#5f5d5c; color:white; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%">Alea Iacta Est</div>
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! colspan="2" style="font-size: 170%; background: #336699;" | Expansion
[[File:AIE_logo_original_small.png|left]]The phrase "Alea iacta est" is Latin for "The die has been cast", the famous quotation made by Caesar, before crossing the Rubicon river and setting his path inexorably to war with Pompey. Our use of this motto plays on the double meaning of dice used in gaming.
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| [[Guild Expansion Readiness Program]]
AIE started in 2007 as a World of Warcraft guild Alea Iacta Est on the Earthen Ring US realm. We have grown into several thousand players and multiple multiplayer games and Steam. We do not focus on any one aspect of gaming (raiding, PvP, fishing, etc.). Rather, we encourage our guildies to enjoy all types of gaming in a family-friendly, stress-free environment.
[[GERP Status]]
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<div style="border:1px solid #2B3A42; background:#5f5d5c; color:white; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%">Getting Started</div>
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| [[World of Warcraft]]
; [[UMAMI| How to join the guild using UMAMI]]
: [[Policies and Procedures]] • [[Test]]
; [[AIE Guild Guide| Tips for new members]]
: [[Test2]] • [[Test3]]
; Guild Expansion Readiness Program
[[EVE Online]]
: [[Guild_Expansion_Readiness_Program| What is GERP?]]
: [[Test]] • [[Test2]]
: [[GERP_Status| GERP status]]
: [[Test3]] • [[Test7]]
; [[FAQs| Frequently Asked Questions]]
[[Rift]]
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: [[Test4]] • [[Test5]]
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: [[Test6]] • [[Test7]]
<div style="border:1px solid #2B3A42; background:#5f5d5c; color:white; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%">History</div>
| [[Star Wars: the Old Republic]]
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
: [[Test4]] • [[Test5]]
; [[Founding of the guild]]
: [[Test6]] • [[Test7]]
; [[Cataclysm and the reforging]]
[[The Secret World]]
; Recurring Events
: [[Test4]] • [[Test5]]
: [[COOP]]
: [[Test6]] • [[Test7]]
: [[Running of the Beef]]
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: [[Craft Faire]]
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<div style="border:1px solid #2B3A42; background:#5f5d5c; color:white; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%">Official Guilds</div>
[[Guildie of the Week| Past Guildies of the Moment]]
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; [[WoW:Welcome| World of Warcraft]]
{| style="width: 100%; max-width: 822px; border: 1px solid silver; font-size: 90%; margin-top: 10px;" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="2"
; [[EVE_Online| EVE Online]]
! colspan="2" style="font-size: 115%; background: #CCF;" | Other
; [[Rift:Welcome| Rift]]
|- style="background: #EEF;"
; [[SWtOR:Welcome| Star Wars: the Old Republic]]
| [[Explorable area|All explorable areas]] • [[List of elite skills by capture location|Elite skills by capture location]] • [[Title|Titles]] • [[Heroes]] • [[Henchmen]] <br> [[Zaishen Challenge Quest]]s • [[Nicholas the Traveler]] • [[Weekend events]]
; [[TSW:Welcome| The Secret World]]
; [[LotRO:Welcome| Lord of the Rings Online]]  
; [[Steam:Steam_Group| Steam]]
</div>
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<div style="border:1px solid #2B3A42; background:#5f5d5c; color:white; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%">Guild Tech</div>
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
; [http://theaiepodcast.com/ AIE Podcast] • [http://theaiepodcast.com/live/ Live Feed]
; [[Guild Calendar| Guild calendar]]
; Communications
: [http://forum.myextralife.com/forum/3-alea-iacta-est/ Forums]
: [[Ventrilo Setup]] • [[Ventrilo Normalization]]
: [[Jabber]]
: [http://twitter.com/aie_guild Twitter]
: [http://www.facebook.com/AIEguild Facebook]
</div>
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<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
; Some stuff
; Some more stuff
; Even more stuff
</div>
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SF:OW#I*FRJW(P#*FJWP#(*FJPS(#*FJWP#(*FJ




===<div style="width: 75%; margin: auto; background: #5d1618; border: 1px solid #858180;"><div style="background: #5f5d5c; border: 1px solid #858180; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">Welcome to the official wiki for the [[Alea Iacta Est]] gaming community.</div></div>===


<div style="width: 75%; margin: auto; background: #336699; border: 1px solid #AAA;"><div style="background: #999999; border: 1px solid #336699; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">Welcome to the official wiki for the [[alea iacta est]] (AIE) gaming community.</div></div>
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<div style="background: #336699; border: 1px solid #7BC; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>Featured article</div>
<div style="background: #5d1618; border: 1px solid #858180; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>Featured article</div>
<div style="padding: 0em 1em;">{{:Main Page/featured article}}</div>
<div style="padding: 0em 1em;">{{:Main Page/featured article}}</div>
<div style="text-align: right; font-size: 0.8em; font-style: italic; margin: 0.3em 1em;">[[Main Page/featured article|Previously featured articles]]</div>
<div style="text-align: right; font-size: 0.8em; font-style: italic; margin: 0.3em 1em;">[[Main Page/featured article|Previously featured articles]]</div>


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<div style="background: #336699; border: 1px solid #7BC; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>Latest in-game activities</div>
<div style="background: #5d1618; border: 1px solid #858180; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>Latest in-game activities</div>
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<div style="background: #336699; border: 1px solid #7BC; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>Getting Started</div>
<div style="background: #5d1618; border: 1px solid #858180; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>Getting Started</div>
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; [[AIE Guild Guide]]
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<div style="background: #ACD; border: 1px solid #7BC; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;">[[File:Main Equip.png]]</div>Gear and equipment</div>
<div style="background: #5d1618; border: 1px solid #858180; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>History</div>
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
; [[Founding of the Guild]]
; [[Cataclysm and the Reforging]]
; [[Recurring Events]]
: [[COOP]]
: [[Running of the Beef]]
: [[Craft Faire]]
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<div style="background: #5d1618; border: 1px solid #858180; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>Expansion</div>
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
; [[Guild Expansion Readiness Program]]
; [[GERP Status]]
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<div style="background: #5d1618; border: 1px solid #858180; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>Star Wars: the Old Republic</div>
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
; [[SWtOR:Welcome| Welcome]]
; [[Main Page SWTOR| Guild Information]]
; [[SWtOR:Raid Team Summary| Raid Team Summary]]
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<div style="background: #5d1618; border: 1px solid #858180; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>Rift</div>
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
; [[Weapon]]s
; [[Rift Officers| Officers]]
: [[Collector weapon]]s • [[Unique item|Unique "Green" weapons]]
: [[Upgrade component]]s • [[Inscription]]s
; [[Armor]]
: [[:Category:Armor collectors|Collector armor]] • [[Armorer]]s • [[Armor art]] • [[Costume]]s
: [[Rune]]s • [[Insignia]]s
; [[Item]]s
: [[Trade|Trading]] ([[Scam|avoiding scams]]) • [[Crafting material]]s
: [[Trophy|Collectible trophies]] • [[Consumable]]s • [[Miniature]]s
; [[Vault box|Storage]] • [[Container]]s
</div>
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<div style="background: #ACD; border: 1px solid #7BC; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;">[[File:Main Event.png]]</div>Updates, news and events</div>
<div style="background: #5d1618; border: 1px solid #858180; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>EVE Online</div>
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
; [[Game updates]]
; [[EVE Online| Corps Information]]
: {{:Game updates/Links}}
: [[Alea Iacta Est Universal]]
; [[Upcoming changes and features]]
: [[Taxillus Transstellar]]
: ''[[Guild Wars Beyond]]'' ([[Winds of Change]])
; [[EVE Online Officers| Officers]]
: [[Feedback:Skill update previews|Skill update previews]] • ''[[Guild Wars 2]]''
; [[EVE Guides]]
; [[News]]
: [[ArenaNet blogs|ArenaNet's Blog]] • [[Feedback:Developer updates|Developer updates]] • [[Login screen announcements|Login announcements]]
; [[Special event]]s
: [[Contests]]
; [[ArenaNet|About ArenaNet]]
: [[Guild Wars Wiki:ArenaNet staff presence|ArenaNet staff who have accounts on the wiki]]
</div>
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<div style="background: #ACD; border: 1px solid #7BC; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;">[[File:Main PvE.png]]</div>Player vs. Environment</div>
<div style="background: #5d1618; border: 1px solid #858180; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>World of Warcraft</div>
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
; [[Player versus Environment|Campaign overview]]
; [[World of Warcraft Charter| Charter]]
; [[Storyline]] • [[Guide to PvE]]
; [[World of Warcraft Policies and Responsibilities| Policies and Responsibilities]]
: [[Mission]]s • [[Quest]]s ([[List of hard mode quests|Hard mode]]) • [[Cinematic]]s • [[Lore]]
; [[World of Warcraft Officers| Officers]]
; [[Tyria (world)|The World]] • [[Campaign travel]]
; [[Co-guild list| Co-guild List]]
: [[Explorable area]]s • [[Town]]s ([[Port]]s) • [[Outpost]]s • [[Dungeon]]s • [[:Category:Landmarks|Landmarks]]
; [[Game Info]]
: [[List of maps|Maps]] • [[Storybook]]s • [[Hall of Monuments]] ([[Hall of Monuments Reward Calculator|calculator]]) • [[Treasure]]
: [[Classes]] • [[Glossary]]
; [[Non-player character]]s
; [[Raiding]]
: [[Collector]]s • [[Crafter]]s • [[Historian]]s • [[Merchant]]s • [[Trader]]s
: [[Raid Team Summary]] • [[Raiding Progression]]
: [[Hero]]es • [[Henchman|Henchmen]] • [[Skill trainer]]s • [[Pet tamer]]s
: [[Raiding FAQ]]
: [[Creature]]s • [[Boss]]es • [[Animal companion|Pets]] • [[Charmable animal]]s • [[Summon]]s
; [[PvP]]
; [[Hard mode]] • [[Elite Mission]]s
: [[COOP Prime]] • [[COOP Squared]]
: [[Guide to hard mode|Guide]] • [[Vanquisher|Vanquishing]]
; [[Questing]]
; [[Cooperative Mission]]s • [[Embark Beach]]
: [[Leveling Groups]] • [[Gob Squad]] • [[Shh, We%27re Hunting Wabbits]]  
: [[Bam, said the Lady]] • [[Bilgewater Brigade]] • [[Team A]]
; [[Add Ons]]
: [[Recommended Add-Ons| Recommended Add Ons]]
: [[GreenWall]] • [[AieNormous]] • [[Identity Guide]]  
: [[AieCallToArms]] • [[Quick Guide to aieCallToArms| Quick Guide to AieCallToArms]]
; [[World of Warcraft FAQ]]
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<div style="background: #ACD; border: 1px solid #7BC; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;">[[File:Main PvP.png]]</div>Player vs. Player</div>
<div style="background: #5d1618; border: 1px solid #858180; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right;"></div>Guild Tech</div>
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
; [[Player versus Player|Core overview]]
; [https://umami.aie-universal.net/ UMAMI]
: [[Tactics (PvP)|Tactics]] • [[Team roles]] • [[Training Arena|Training]]
; [[AIE Podcast]]
; [[Arena]]s
; [[Communications]]
: [[Random Arenas]] • [[Codex Arena]]
: [http://forum.myextralife.com/forum/3-alea-iacta-est/ Forums]
; [[Tournament]]s • [[Automated tournament]]s
: [[Ventrilo Setup]] • [[Ventrilo Normalization]]
: [[Heroes' Ascent]]
: [https://twitter.com/aie_guild ''Twitter'']
: [[Guild versus Guild]] • [[Guild ladder]]
: [https://www.facebook.com/AIEguild ''Facebook'']
; [[Alliance Battle]]s
; [[Competitive Mission]]s
: [[Fort Aspenwood]] • [[The Jade Quarry]]
; [[Challenge Mission]]s
: [[Zaishen Challenge]] • [[Zaishen Elite]]
; [[Great Temple of Balthazar]] • [[Zaishen Order]]
: [[Isle of the Nameless (PvP)|Isle of the Nameless]] • [[Zaishen Menagerie Grounds]]
</div>
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<div style="background: #ACD; border: 1px solid #7BC; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right; margin-bottom: -1em;">[[File:Main Wiki.png]]</div>Wiki community</div>
<div style="background: #5d1618; border: 1px solid #858180; padding: 5px; margin: 3px; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; font-size: 120%;"><div style="float: right; margin-bottom: -1em;"></div>Conferences</div>
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
<div style="padding-left: 1em;">
We are currently maintaining [[Special:Statistics|{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}]] [[Special:Allpages|articles]]!<br />
; [[BlizzCon]]
<small style="margin-left: 2em;">[[Special:Recentchanges|Recent changes]] | [[Special:Newpages|New pages]] | [[Special:Wantedpages|Missing pages]]</small>
; [[Nerdtacular]]
;[[Guild Wars Wiki:How to help|How to help]]
; [[DragonCon]]
: See how you can help contribute to Guild Wars Wiki!
; [[Special:Userlogin|Register]]
: Register an account to keep track of your contributions.
; [[Guild Wars Wiki:Policy|Policies]] • [[Guild Wars Wiki:Formatting|Guidelines]]
; [[Help:Contents|Get help, or ask a question]]
: [[Guild Wars Wiki:FAQ|Frequently Asked Questions]]  
; [[Guild Wars Wiki:Community portal|Community portal]]
; [[Feedback:Main|Community feedback]]
; [https://forum.guildwars.com/forum ''Guild Wars'' Support Forum]
; [[gw2:Main Page|''Guild Wars 2'' Official Wiki]]
</div>
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<div style="margin-right: 10px; text-align: right; font-style: italic; font-size: 85%;">Changes for the main page can be proposed [[Main Page/editcopy|here]].</div>
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Latest revision as of 17:13, 27 January 2013

UMAMI
Universal Multi-game AIE Membership Interface
GERP
Guild Expansion Readiness Program

Part the First

Category:Guild Wars 2

Part the Second

Welcome to the official wiki for the Alea Iacta Est gaming community!

Featured article
Alea Iacta Est
AIE logo original small.png
The phrase "Alea iacta est" is Latin for "The die has been cast", the famous quotation made by Caesar, before crossing the Rubicon river and setting his path inexorably to war with Pompey. Our use of this motto plays on the double meaning of dice used in gaming.

AIE started in 2007 as a World of Warcraft guild Alea Iacta Est on the Earthen Ring US realm. We have grown into several thousand players and multiple multiplayer games and Steam. We do not focus on any one aspect of gaming (raiding, PvP, fishing, etc.). Rather, we encourage our guildies to enjoy all types of gaming in a family-friendly, stress-free environment.

Getting Started
History
Official Guilds
Guild Tech
Placeholder
Some stuff
Some more stuff
Even more stuff




Welcome to the official wiki for the Alea Iacta Est gaming community.

Featured article
Latest in-game activities
Getting Started
History
Expansion
Star Wars: the Old Republic
Rift
EVE Online
World of Warcraft
Guild Tech
Conferences
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